Interview with former IDF Soldier Haim Bresheeth-Zabner
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This is an amazing if sobering interview. Thanks to Haim Bresheeth-Zabner for taking the time to tirelessly, quietly, and reasonably lay out his case. He spoke almost without interruption for over an hour about how Israel isn’t acting on its own, it’s working for Empire. But what is happening now doesn’t represent the interests of the country, “but not the leadership; the leadership is abandoning their humanity.” He talks at length about the very real danger of nuclear war. Every minute was fascinating and informative.
At 01:15:00,
“Since the 2021 and 2022 reports, Gaza was unlivable in terms of water, in terms of food, in terms of agriculture, in terms of the air quality. Every measure that you used to look at life in Gaza, it was unlivable. What do we actually say it is now? The UN said that it’ll take probably six decades to rebuild Gaza and 16 years just to remove the rubble. Now, what are the people of Gaza supposed to do now? When they don’t have any food coming into the north of Gaza?
“I’ll tell you one thing: the Nazis allowed very little food into ghettos in Europe before they destroyed them. And they calculated scientifically how much a human needs to stay alive. A child or a grownup—how much they actually require to stay alive. Just on that line that, a bit less, they will die, and that’s what they supplied. No fail, by the way. If Israel adopted that criterion in Gaza, […] a lot of people would have been saved already. Unfortunately, Israel has no plan of doing that. They actually don’t allow any food into North Gaza. Now, I don’t want to say this is like the Nazis or not. I’m saying I wish the Israelis adopted that criterion of feeding the people in Gaza. Now they don’t do that.
“And that means that there are no hospitals, no schools, no mosques, no facilities, amenities of any kind that allow life to continue in Gaza. On the other hand, the water is polluted, the earth is polluted with uranium, with phosphorus—including white phosphorus—with gases, that Israelis used. Life is impossible in Gaza and people are dying all the time. If they don’t die from bombs, they die from polio, they die from other diseases, and they die from the hostile environment that Israelis have created.”
At 01:18:00,
“Most of the people of Gaza come from just around Gaza. Let them return there. Let them live where there is water, where there is electricity, where food safety is not in question. And not only will they actually live but they will be the bridge to the future.
“Because this move to save from what the Israelis and the Americans and the rest of the West has created—a death trap for two-and-a-half million people—will now become the beginning of the return, the return of the refugees. And will be, if done properly, with all the dangers that I’m aware of—all the dangers we all are aware of—nothing is as dangerous as what the Israelis are doing and have done to Gaza—and what the Americans have done by supplying it.
“So, this is a project which is humanitarian, which is about the future of living together, sharing Palestine, and stopping the process of the last eight decades of war and destruction, stopping Zionism, getting rid of it and living like Jews lived in the Arab East and in southern Europe for 800 years under Muslim rule. It is possible. It is just. It is depending on all of us, working to save those who have survived and that will not survive much longer if we don’t do this.”